嘉宾托马斯-劳
瑞士巴拉塞尔诊疗中心首席医疗官
希望青春永驻是人类的天性，抗衰老更是医学界长久以来的课题，时至今日，各国科学家已经研究出众多抗衰老的方式。目前各种广告上，关于瑞士细胞活化疗法介绍随处可见，尤其是羊胎素抗衰老技术，吸引着广大求美者的目光，那么究竟何为细胞活化疗法？它能给我们带来什么？
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搜狐健康：各位搜狐网友大家好，欢迎来到搜狐健康访谈间。希望青春永驻是人类的天性，抗衰老更是医学界长久以来的课题，时至今日，各国科学家已经研究出众多抗衰老的方式。目前各种广告上，关于瑞士细胞活化疗法介绍随处可见，尤其是羊胎素抗衰老技术，吸引着广大求美者的目光，那么究竟何为细胞活化疗法？它能给我们带来什么？
本次访谈我们特别请来了瑞士巴拉塞尔诊疗中心首席医疗官托马斯·劳博士，请他来跟我们谈一谈瑞士生物医学抗衰老的话题。欢迎托马斯·劳医生。
请问Dr.Rau博士，您的抗衰老理念是什么？
托马斯·劳：The anti-aging philosophy is the human cells and human body consists of cells, and the cells can be regenerated inside the body, from inside cell by cell. And the regenerative capacity, the strength for regeneration of cells is normally in our population is blocked by toxins, by lack of nutritions. Therefore, we do detoxification, and the specify nitrification of the body, of the cell.
每个人的身体都是由细胞组成的。一个健康的人的细胞会不断地从内到外的更新，现代人的细胞修复都被重金属等毒素以及缺乏营养等因素阻挠了、干扰了，所以我们做排毒和特定的营养补充来帮助细胞修复。
搜狐健康：请您为广大网友解释一下瑞士生物医学抗衰老的临床研究。
托马斯·劳：The clinic researches more than 30 years of intensive treatment and experiences with hundred of ten thousand of patients and it concentrates of preventing aging and it concentrates of treating chronic diseases and preventing cancer by early rebuilding cell by cell. The main research is integrative and active cell treatment, cell activation treatment to prevent aging, those degeneration of the cells. By doing so, we can prevent chronic diseases, we can heal chronic diseases.
我们累积了三十多年的经验，通过了上万的案例，主要是利用生物医学对预防衰老慢性疾病、癌症的研究。其中最主要的研究是整体细胞活化疗法预防衰老，然后解决亚健康的问题。
整体细胞活化疗法除了细胞排毒、细胞营养以外，还有细胞活化，通过整体细胞活化疗法让人体的细胞更加有活力，恢复人体年轻状态下最强大的组织再生能力和自我修复能力，从而得到健康，这样才可以预防慢性疾病。
搜狐健康：瑞士生物医学中什么疗法是用来预防衰老、恢复人体正常生理功能的呢？
托马斯·劳：The treatment which we do is always remove the causes why the body is sick. And this is detoxification, and it’s always intestinal weakness, so we treat the intestines, we do the detoxification. This is the basis, then come the cell treatment.Yes, very important the detoxification and the nitrification, the nutrition, the food, very specific, this is important.
医学上其实预防衰老、恢复人体正常生理机能，我们核心还是首先从排毒开始，然后是从你的肠道补充营养，然后才得到活化，也就是说整体细胞活化疗法包括了细胞排毒、细胞营养和细胞活化三个重要步骤。排毒是非常非常重要的，然后排毒完了之后营养，因为有营养细胞才能修复。
搜狐健康：细胞活化疗法是瑞士生物医学抗衰老的一个核心吗？
托马斯·劳：Yes, cell therapy is one of the core, but it has to be done individualized, we have to look which organ is diseased then we can activate very specific and always combine the detoxification.
No. it no more works nowadays. Because patients, they are so toxic load and blocked and they can’t regenerate, only the therapy with life cells, it doesn’t work, it has to be combined with the very specific detoxification.
是的，是核心。但是必须做个性化疗法，必须知道你身体的问题，然后再量身订作，然后再进行排毒，细胞营养才得到修复。如果没有采取个性化的方法的话是治疗不好的，不知道你个人到底有什么问题，一个人身上毒素很多，但光是打一针的话不一定会见效。
搜狐健康：瑞士生物医学是对传统医学的一个补充和提高吗？就抗衰老临床研究来讲，细胞活化疗法抗衰老对恢复人体正常生理功能的疗效是怎么样的？
托马斯·劳：The difference between Swiss biological medicine and conventional medicine is huge. Conventional medicine just focuses on supervising symptoms. It does not really heal, it does not look for reasons. And we look for reasons and remove these reasons for sickness and then we activate the cells to rebuild. We never treat only symptoms, we always treat the whole body by changing the internal milieu which allows up building of the cells. And we activate the regulatory capacity, up building the capacity of the body. And only so, we can heal all these mortal diseases like chronic fatigue or fibromyalgia or diabetes or heart disease, all these mortal diseases we can heal, and conventional medicine can’t.
生物医学和传统医学的最大区别是传统医学治疗的是症状，而生物医学是把人当成一个整体，它是利用生物医学的基础来找到疾病的原因，然后从人体内部防御环境来激活细胞的自我调节能力，才能变得健康。我们从来就不治疗那些症状，我们是改变你身体体内的环境，能让你得到一个自我修复的功能，激活你的自我调节功能。通过瑞士生物疗法可以治疗一些传统医学治疗不了的疾病，包括慢性疾病，比如心脏病。
搜狐健康：这种疗法听起来这么神奇，那么它在临床上已经应用了多少年了呢？
托马斯·劳：I practice myself 30 years but the clinic exists since 1958, we do this treatment and it develops all the time.
The effects of the treatments are very good, because we see it our patients, they come back spontaneous, 80% of the patients, they come back and they want the treatment again. And the effects are they get healed from chronic disease, heart disease, diabetes, even cancer can be stabilized.
我已经做了三十年，我们那个诊疗中心1958年就开始了，而且它一直在更新。目前来看，它的效果是怎么样的呢？我们的治疗效果是非常非常好的，我们病人回诊率是80%，很多慢性疾病患者都得到了治疗，心脏病、糖尿病，甚至癌症病人，都得到了缓解。
搜狐健康：目前有很多中国消费者受广告的影响，盲目地去瑞士进行抗衰老的治疗，最有名的是羊胎素抗衰老技术，您能否给中国消费者一些良好的建议，避免他们的利益受到侵害？
托马斯·劳：Yes. Suggestion for Chinese customers. Active cell therapy is not just simply injecting some life cells, this does not work. It has to be combined with detoxification, it has to be combined with the activation of the cell life, cell capacity. So I suggest to the customers to choose the system which integrates detoxification and looks for the cause for diseases. Our clinic has a long history in treating life with life cells. But more and more we see that we have to integrate with other treatments. So when they come for our cell treatment they have to do a check of their system, of their health system, if they are toxic, or if the intestinal system can’t uptake nutrients.
羊胎素治疗不是一个单纯的美容项目，不是打一针就可以解决所有的问题。整体细胞活化疗法是一个系统性的疗法，包括了细胞排毒、细胞营养和细胞活化。所以建议大家一定要选择有发展历史的正规的医疗机构做个性化的治疗，才能保证你的细胞保持一个最长时间的活力状态，达到治疗效果。
病人来诊所的时候就必须先做一个全身的体检，确定他的身体的状况，才做治疗，而不是随便打一针。
搜狐健康：您刚才说随便打一针不会有效果，那么如果做一个正规的治疗的话，程序是什么样的？
托马斯·劳：The proper way of doing anti-aging treatment and the regenerative treatment is to clean the body, to detoxify the body, so they can up build the cells, then when you are prepared very well then we can give the injections, but the injections have to be given very specifically to the body. One patient needs liver, one patient needs more brain or hormones, placenta is not for everybody, it doesn’t work if the body is toxic. In our clinic, after the 30 years’ experience I know that I have to examine the patient very individually, with all the techniques which we have, then we can give the individualized life cell treatment. We rebuild the body from inside cell by cell.
首先必须得来做一个全身的体检，之后做一个量身订作的排毒，因为每个人的身体状况都不同，然后在注射细胞的时候也必须是个性化。比如打肝脏细胞，如果你肝脏没事，就没必要打那个细胞了。每个人都有不同的需求，经过三十多年的经验，我知道要做一件事情，必须做一个很个性的体检，很清楚他的状况之后才可以量身订作。我们是让你从内修复到外， 一个细胞一个细胞地修复。
搜狐健康：全球现在除了瑞士以外还有别的国家能够提供羊胎素的注射吗？
托马斯·劳：Yes. There are other countries in which the treatment is done like Germany, or even in United States, but there it is not legal and the difference is we do the whole diagnostic to see what the problem of the patients is, much more deep going than conventional medicine does, we look how do the regenerative functions of the cells up. At Paracelsus Klinik in Switzerland, Dr. Rau’s way we practice, we do each patient gets diagnostic for toxic load, for evacuation capacity if the body can not yet to stimulate, if the intestinal system which has to take up the whole nutrients is intact so we see how the capacity of the body is, and which organ needs the cell treatment.
除了瑞士以外，美国、德国等一些国家也提供这方面的注射，但是他们不一定是合法的，而且没有另外一家医院有做像我们那么详细的一个筛选，给你做一个完整的生物诊断，能整体化地治疗。首先就是做一个人体机能的全面检测，制定个性化的治疗方案，并进行长期的效果追踪。
现在巴拉塞尔诊疗中心首先给你做一个很严谨的毒素测试，再就是测你身体的基本功能反应，然后再测你的肠道健不健康，这些检测完之后才给你做一个量身订作的治疗。
搜狐健康：中国国内有很多种羊胎素的制品，比如说胶囊、口服液等，从生物医学的角度来讲，它们的作用是一样的吗？
托马斯·劳：No. They do not have the same function. They are like nutrients you eat product, it’s different because you need to be digested, ever thing we take all has to come through the intestines and therefore it get spited it does not have to same effect as if we do directly not over the entire system. The oral preparation would only work if you have the very good intestinal absorption and system, but nowadays sick patients no more have this. Therefore if you really want the intensive activation of the cell function, you have to detoxify, increase the intestinal function and the cell activation.
是完全不一样的。因为口服产品会经过你的肠道被消化吸收，跟直接注射进去是两个概念，除非你有一个很健康的肠道，才可以把口服产品的营养全吸收了，但是现代大部分人肠道是不健康的，如果真要达到效果，必须先做细胞排毒、细胞营养，再注射细胞，缺一不可，不然是不可能达到效果的。
搜狐健康：所以您不建议消费者在没有进行这些系统的检测的情况下，就买来这些羊胎素的制品自己服用，是不是？
托马斯·劳：It’s a waste of money.
对，它是一种浪费钱。
搜狐健康：那请您介绍一下巴拉塞尔诊疗中心在欧洲是一个什么类型的医疗机构。作为瑞士生物医学抗衰老较领先的医疗机构，你们有哪些的特点和优势，能为中国消费者提供哪些个性化的定制服务？
托马斯·劳：Paracelsus clinic is established since 1958, which is an integrative biological center with a very long history. We have now more than 10 doctors permanently working every day, 300 to 400 patients come to the clinic, we have patients from 81 countries from the whole world. It has a big, big practitioner. Since many years, I have our own Paracelsus academy to teach nurses, doctors, pharmacists about our treatments. Besides that, Paracelsus clinic has a big experience of cell treatment. We integrate most modern technologies in diagnosis of toxic load of cellular activity of each organ specifically. Much more deep going than conventional techniques. We can test hormone function, we can test pituitary gland function, we can test the adrenal function which is stress capacity. Then we can give a very individualized advice how about to do. So even in 3 days, it’s enough to do the full diagnostic check-up, but very deep going then I can see which organ has to be stimulated.
巴拉塞尔诊疗中心成立于1958年，是欧洲一家历史非常悠久的整体生物医学中心，是欧洲唯一一家综合了瑞士传统医学和生物医学的一体化诊疗机构，并有自己先进的生物医学学院。
我们每天可以治疗300-400个人，治疗过来自81个国家的病人。巴拉塞尔是唯一的一家从细胞水平关注人体健康的机构，我们有瑞士最先进的检测手段，比如荷尔蒙分泌、脑垂体激素等检测项目。因为有了先进检测仪器和手段，我们才可以治疗更多的人。因为有了这些很先进的检测，我们才可以做一些很个性化的治疗。
来到巴拉塞尔3天就可以做一个很全面的检测，而有了这些检测结果之后，我们就可以给你制定一个非常个性化的专属的治疗计划，来做细胞活化。
搜狐健康：只需要3天，这3天是出这个计划，还是说包括治疗都完成了？
托马斯·劳：If you want to come to Paracelsus, or if you want to have a life cell treatment, the best way is to apply to Paracelsus, then we tell the patients what to do, preliminary in their country as tests, afterwards, you come with these tests, send to us then you come they want they know all the item a lot, we can do very specific in 2, 3 days with all additional tests and make the program and begin the program, and afterwards you get the medical plan program which you can do at home to get away the clinic which you work, all with the practice, which you work.
来巴拉塞尔治疗的最好的方式是首先预约时间，预约好之后我们会给你一个体检方案，让你在你的国家先做好体检，体检之后把体检报告给我们，然后我们就有一个初步方案，就知道你需要什么。然后到了巴拉塞尔之后就会有2天的生物功能的检测，包括做细胞的排毒、营养、活化等等，等方案出来之后就得到整体细胞治疗。做完之后我们还会给你回国之后的方案，这个疗法可能会有持续半年到一年，回到本国之后就可以跟当地医疗机构继续用药。
搜狐健康：听了Dr.Rau的介绍，我们也知道了瑞士的整体细胞活化疗法包括了细胞排毒、细胞营养、细胞活化三个治疗步骤，这三步缺一不可，这样才能够真正达到抗衰老的目的。
那么我们本期的访谈到此结束，感谢Doctor劳，感谢各位网友，我们下期再见。
