College cheating scandal: Can system be fixed?
美国大学舞弊丑闻: 招生系统能被修复吗？
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Winning
It would be easy enough to apply the sameadmissions standards to all applicants and not make exceptions for athletes,children of alumni, wealthy donors, race, gender, or economic status.
对所有申请者采用相同的招生标准，而不是因为运动员、校友子女、富有的捐赠者、种族、性别或经济地位等做例外处理，这是很容易做到的。
TatC
What's the big deal............................................ Everyone knows that there areDIPLOMA-MILLS!
有什么大不了的... ...每个人都知道有文凭工厂！
Kathy
To the Alumni of all these colleges, STOPsending your alma mater any money, because obviously they do not need it.Suspend all Federal and State funding to these colleges for ten years and forceall participants to resign without benefits. The taxpayers should NOT have topay a dime for this type of fraud. Let the lesson be learned.
对于所有这些大学的校友，不要再给你的母校寄钱了，因为他们显然不需要， 暂停所有联邦和州政府对这些学院的资助，为期十年，并强制所有参与者辞职，不得享受任何福利， 纳税人不应该为这种欺诈行为付出一分钱， 让我们吸取教训吧。
Chris D
How about this one: My son;s friend in highschool has $80K in scholarship and grant money for no other reason than HE WASADOPTED FROM AFRICA. Yet, both his parents have good jobs and CAN AFFORD to payhis way. Where is THAT fair?
这个怎么样: 我儿子的高中朋友有8万美元的奖学金和助学金，原因不外乎他是从非洲被收养的，然而，他的父母都有很好的工作，能够支付他的生活费用， 公平在哪里？
Floyd
I still can't figure out the right andwrong here. Rich people use a broker, to get their kids in college, and this ishorrible and detestable beyond words. Yet, colleges for decades have givenprecedence to unqualified students, with free scholarships just because theyare of a certain so called minority group. Leaving hundreds of thousands whohave sacrificed to achieve, thrown into the wind.
我还是搞不清楚对错， 有钱人利用经纪人，让他们的孩子上大学，这是无法用言语形容的可怕和可憎，然而，几十年来，大学一直优先录取不合格的学生，让他们获得免费奖学金，仅仅是因为他们属于某个所谓的少数群体，其他成千上万的人被牺牲，被抛入风中。
Anonymous
I attended a great private small college onthe west coast. The costs were enormous and admissions were competitive.Nonetheless, the student enrollment fluctuates somewhat over rolling 5 and 10year periods. In other words, I doubt students actually lost slots to thesepeople paying
我就读于西海岸一所很棒的私立学校， 费用巨大，招生也很有竞争力， 尽管如此，学生入学率在5年和10年之间波动很大， 换句话说，我怀疑真的有学生会被这些付费的人抢走名额
Fkerpants
'College cheating scandal: Can systembe fixed?' Sure can. Use grades as a metric for admissions.
'大学作弊丑闻: 系统能修复吗?' 当然可以， 用分数作为入学标准。
Thomas
ITS THE AMERICAN WAY . RICH PEOPLE GAME THESYSTEM. THATS THE WAY TRUMPS GOT INTO WHARTON AND INTO PRESIDENCY
这是美国的方式， 富人玩弄体制，这就是特朗普进入沃顿商学院并成为总统的方式
Rokossovsky
Affirmative Action is cheating. Don't kidyourself.
平权法案是作弊， 别自欺欺人了。
Jeff2
No, the college admissions system cannot befixed. It is permanently broken. Just like the rest of our society and nationis. We are a broken people and nation. And Trompf's swampy admin is certainlyaccelerating our decline.
不，大学录取制度是无法改变的， 它已经永久性损坏了， 就像我们社会和国家的其他人一样，我们是一个支离破碎的民族和国家， 而特朗普的管理层无疑正在加速我们的衰落。
Darrell
My experience with enrollment to UCLA in1990. I was Honor Level student transfer, all they wanted to know was how muchmy parents income is. Perhaps that was “code” that went over my head, but mycounselor walked out and I was shown the door. The Universities have been doingthis and encouraging it for decades. I went to a Cal State instead and I’mdoing great anyhow.
说说我1990年想加入加州大学洛杉矶分校的经历， 我是优等转学生，但他们只想知道我父母的收入是多少，也许那是我无法理解的'准则'，我和辅导员没谈拢，被扫地出门了，几十年来，大学一直在这样做，并鼓励这样做， 后来我去了加州州立大学，不管怎样我现在过得很好。
tumblr
The fraud isn’t committed by just richpeople. Most of the college applications submitted have BS stuff written onthem just so the applicant has a better chance. People are even falselyclaiming their gay or transgender knowing the liberal universities will bite onthat and let them in for it. The problem is the university’s ignorance andtheir acceptance criteria.
诈骗不仅仅是有钱人干的， 大多数提交的大学申请上都写有学士学位的东西，这样申请者就有更好的机会， 人们甚至谎称自己是同性恋或跨性别者，因为他们知道自由派大学比较吃这套，会因为这些让他们录取，问题在于大学的无知和他们的录取标准。
John
Thing is most employers really don’t carewhere you went to school. I went through community college then stateuniversity. There was no need to cheat getting admitted. It was hard butsuccess was proportional to effort. The questions I got in job interviews werewhat engineering discipline i majored in, what projects I completed, what wasmy GPA. I got hired and started working.
问题是大多数雇主真的不关心你在哪里上的学， 我上的是社区大学，然后是州立大学， 没有必要在考试中作弊。 这很难，但成功与努力是成正比的， 我在求职面试中遇到的问题包括我的专业是什么，我完成了哪些项目，我的 GPA 是多少， 然后我就被雇佣并开始工作。
Tissye
Trump’s father was a big donor to WhartonCollege where Donald “graduated” from. Can’t you see the results?
特朗普的父亲是他'毕业'的沃顿商学院的一个大捐助者，你还看不到结果吗？
Thomas
Sure it can be fix, once you stop givingpreference to athletics, minorities and large donors. After 50 years of tryingto right all of Americas wrongs it is time to select on grades and entrancetest.
当然，一旦你不再优先考虑体育运动员、少数族裔和大额捐款人，这个问题是可以解决的，在试图用平权法案纠正所有美国人的错误50年之后，现在到了按平时成绩和入学考试分数录取的时候了。
Alumni
HAHAHAH..One time when I was at USC, myfriend who did work-study at the Cinema School said this one kid turned in hisapplication with a letter of recommendation from Clint Eastwood. We all thoughtthat kid was a shoe-in to get in the school of Cinema
哈哈哈. . 我在南加州大学的时候，我一个在电影学院半工半读的朋友告诉我，有一个孩子在递交申请时附上了克林特 · 伊斯特伍德的推荐信， 我们都认为那是那个孩子进电影学院的敲门砖。
jim
Funny throughout this whole thing the lefthas never yet asked how Obamas girls got into college even though their tenniscoach was named in this ?? Blind eye??
有趣的是，在整个事件中，左翼人士从未问过奥巴马家的女孩们是如何进入大学的，尽管她们的网球教练也被卷入丑闻？瞎了眼？
Joe
'Can system be fixed?' Not aslong as the schools themselves are engaged in the same behavior. How manystudents with horrible grades are recruited and given scholarships because theyare good at sports? Then they're given course ware that even a severelymentally disabled student would find too easy, so they get to keep theirscholarship, and get to graduate with a degree. And then there's the mega rich,who donate big bucks to the really exclusive colleges, and the kids get in. Whyis that? If the colleges do it themselves, why can't the parents? The onlydifference is that the parents are doing it on the front-end and the schools onthe back-end. ..
'系统可以修复吗?' 只要高校本身也在做同样的事情就不会，有多少成绩糟糕的学生因为擅长体育而被招募并获得奖学金？ 然后，他们会参加特殊课程，即使是一个严重智障的学生也会觉得那太容易了，所以他们可以保持奖学金，并最终获得学位毕业。 还有那些超级富豪，他们捐赠了大量的钱给那些著名的大学，孩子们就被录取了， 为什么？如果大学自己可以做，为什么家长不能？ 唯一的区别是，家长们在前面做，而高校在幕后做...
nita
If you think any of these people will go toprison you got to be kidding yourself. They bought their kids into a collegeand they will buy their way out of prison, just like all rich people do.
如果你认为这些人中的任何一个会进监狱，那你就是在自欺欺人， 他们把自己的孩子送进大学，然后像所有有钱人一样，用钱把自己弄出监狱。
Marlene
The problem is the universities. They takebribes just like the politicians. There is obviously no oversight, noaccountability and no responsibility. In all things there should be checks andbalances otherwise they will get away with it.
问题在于大学， 他们像政客一样收受贿赂，显然没有受到监督，没有问责制，也没有责任， 所有的事情都应该有相互制衡，否则他们就会逃脱惩罚。
Get Real
Yes it can be easily fixed. Put these highprofile parents in jail for a good 3 or 4 years.
是的，它可以很容易地修复， 把这些高调的父母关进监狱3到4年。
Moni
College applications just like employmentapplications should not list gender or age or race or name. All applicationsshould be assigned a randomly generated number. This way college admissions aswell as jobs would be awarded, in theory, to those most qualified. Hiding suchinformation from applications would help remove any potential bias.
大学申请就像就业申请一样，不应该列出性别、年龄、种族或姓名，应该由程序分配一个随机产生的数字，这样，理论上，大学录取和工作都会授予那些最有资格的人， 让应用程序隐藏这些信息将有助于消除任何潜在的偏见。
ScottD
its been rigged for years.on my collegeapplication it asked fathers occurpation,yearly income.its a business and thosewho have the ability to produce big endowment checks get into the selectedcolleges.
在我的大学申请书中，要求提供父亲的年收入，这是一门生意，有能力提供大笔捐款的人可以进入选定的大学。
bob
The reason tuition costs so much at theseschools is all the free rides for 'athletes' and the accompanying $$$to recruit them, bribe them to come play for your school, free housing, freefood, free books...and of course most of the costly high profile athletes takeit all and leave for the pros after a term or two and never pay a dime out oftheir multi $million contracts back to the school.
这些高校的学费之所以如此昂贵，是因为它们为'运动员'提供了所有免费的便利条件，同时还提供了美元来招募他们，贿赂他们来为你的高校踢球，提供免费住房、免费食物、免费书籍...当然，大多数昂贵的高知名度运动员都会在一两个学期后离开，去参加职业比赛，而且从未从他们价值数百万美元的合同中拿出一分钱回报高校。
Lloyd
What I’ve found in my career is that itdoesn’t matter where you went to school. What matters is performance, thosethat perform well in school & on the job will advance further.
在我的职业生涯中，我发现你在哪里上学并不重要， 重要的是表现，那些在高校和工作中表现良好的人会进一步提高。
Buzz
I went to the most expensive law school inthe mid-west and we are clearly better lawyers than our contemporaries who wentto cheaper schools.
我上的是中西部最昂贵的法学院，我们显然比那些学费更便宜的同龄人更优秀。
DouglasandLeah
What's the remedy? Lengthy prison terms,blown reputations that leave them all unemployed forever and lawsuits thatleave them bankrupt and pushing a shopping cart with all their stuff in it.
补救措施是什么？ 漫长的监狱生活，名誉扫地，最终导致他们永远失业，诉讼导致他们破产，推着装满他们所有东西的购物车流浪。
Alexander
People will always and reliably work togame the system in their and their kids own favor. That is a given. I put equalblame if not more blame on the Colleges/Universities. They are straight upgreedy. Every year tuition skyrockets far past any inflation rate. The schoolsroutinely get BILLIONS in gov't handouts in the form of guaranteed studentloans. The students are stuck paying these loans, the schools get the money,the gov't guarantees the loan. Its a win/win for the schools irrespective ofweather or not they actually provide a worthwhile education. Pay to play takestwo and the colleges and their administrations need to be taken to task overthis.
人们总是为了自己和孩子的利益钻空子， 这是不争的事实， 我认为学院或大学也要负同样的责任，他们直截了当地贪婪， 每年的学费都在飞涨，远远超过任何通货膨胀率，这些高校通常以担保学生贷款的形式获得数十亿美元的政府资助， 学生们被迫支付这些贷款，高校得到资金，政府担保贷款， 无论结果如何，高校都是双赢的，它们实际上提供了一个有价值的教育，一个巴掌拍不响，大学和它们的管理部门都需要对此负责。
