Question: What are the rules and principles of your life? Since, presumably, they are based on your own conception of love, beauty, truth, and God, what is that conception?
问：你生活中的规则和原则是什么？它们想必是基于你自己关于爱、美、真理和神的概念的，那么那些概念是怎样的？
Krishnamurti: What are my rules and principles of life? None. Please follow what I say, critically and intelligently. Don't object, 'Must we not have rules? Otherwise our lives would be chaos.' Don't think in terms of opposites. Think intrinsically with regard to what I am saying. Why do you want rules and principles? Why do you want them, you who have so many principles by which you are shaping, controlling, directing your lives? Why do you want rules?
克里希那穆提：我生活中的规则和原则是什么？没有。请批判地、理智地跟上我说的话。不要反对地说：“难道我们不应该有规则吗？否则我们的生活会一团糟。”不要用对立面的方式来思考。用心想一想我的话本身内在的含义。你们为什么想要规则和原则？你们有如此之多的原则，你们根据它们来塑造、控制和指导自己的生活，你们为什么需要它们？你们为什么想要规则？
'Because', you reply, 'we cannot live without them. Without rules and principles we would do exactly the things that we want to do; we might overeat or overindulge in sex, possess more than we should. We must have principles and rules by which to guide our lives.' In other words, to restrain yourselves without understanding, you must have these principles and rules. This is the whole artificial structure of your lives - restraint, control, suppression - for behind this structure is the idea of gain, security, comfort, which causes fear.
“因为”，你回答说，“我们的生活中不能没有它们。没有规则和原则的话，我们会完全为所欲为；我们可能会暴饮暴食或者沉溺于性，过多地去占有我们不该拥有的东西。我们必须要有规则和准则来指导我们的生活。”换句话说，若要在尚未理解之时就约束你自己，你就必须要有这些原则和规则。这就是你们的生活中人为搭建起来的整个结构——约束、控制、压抑——因为在这些结构背后是想要求取、安全和舒适的想法，而这导致了恐惧。
But the man who is not pursuing acquisitiveness, the man who is not caught up in the promise of reward or the threat of punishment, does not require rules; the man who tries to live and understand each experience completely does not need principles and rules, for it is only conditioning beliefs which demand conformity. When thought is unbound, unconditioned, it will then know itself as eternal. You try to control thought, to shape and direct it, because you have established a goal, a conclusion towards which you wish to go, and that end is always what you desire it to be, though you may call it God, perfection, reality.
但是不追求占有的人，没有困在奖赏的承诺或者惩罚的威胁中的人，不需要规则；试着充分体会和了解每一个经验的人，不需要原则和规则，因为只有局限的信仰才要求遵从。当思想未被束缚、不受局限，那么它自己就会知道永恒。你试图去控制思想，去塑造和引导它，因为你建立起了一个你希望达成的目标或者结论，而那目标始终是你所希望的样子，尽管你也许称之为神、完满或者真相。
You ask me concerning my conception of God, truth, beauty, love. But I say, if someone describes truth, if someone tells you the nature of truth, beware of that person. For truth cannot be described; truth cannot be measured by words. You nod your heads in agreement, but tomorrow you will again be trying to measure truth, to find a description of it. Your attitude towards life is based on the principle of creating a mould, and then fitting yourselves into that mould. Christianity offers you one mould, Hinduism offers another, Muhammadanism, Buddhism, Theosophy offer still others.
你问我关于神、真理、美和爱，我的概念是什么。但是我说，如果有人描述真理，如果有人告诉你真理的本质，当心那个人。因为真理无法描述，真理无法用语言衡量。你点头表示同意，但是明天你又会试图衡量真理并寻找对它的描述。你对生命的态度基于这样一个原则，即铸造某个模式然后再把自己塞进那个模子。基督教提供给你一种模式，印度教提供另一种，伊斯兰教、佛教、通神学会则提供另外一些模式。
But why do you want a mould? Why do you cherish preconceived ideas? All that you can know is pain, suffering and passing joys. But you want to escape from them; you don't try to understand the cause of pain, the depth of suffering. Rather, you turn to its opposite for your consolation. In your sorrow, you say that God is love, that God is just, merciful. Mentally and emotionally you turn to this ideal of love, justice, and shape yourselves after that pattern. But you can understand love only when you are no longer possessive; from possessiveness arises all sorrow. Yet your system of thought and emotion is based on possessiveness; so how can you know of love?
但是你们为什么想要某种模式？你们为什么抱持先入为主的观念？你所知道的一切是痛苦、苦难和转瞬即逝的快乐。但是你想要逃避它们；你不去试着了解痛苦的根源和深度，而是，为了寻求慰藉将目光转向它们的对立面。在悲伤之中，你说神是爱，神是公正的、仁慈的。你们从心理上和情感上将目光转向了爱和公正这些理想，并根据那些模式来塑造自己。但是只有当你不再有占有欲，你才能领悟爱；所有悲伤因占有而生。然而你的整个思想和感情体系都基于占有，所以你怎么可能懂得爱呢？
So your first concern is to free the mind and heart from possessiveness, and you can do that only when that possessiveness becomes a poison to you, when you feel the suffering, the agony which that poison causes. Now you are trying to escape from that suffering. You want me to tell you what my ideal of love is, my ideal of beauty, so that you can make of it another pattern, another standard, or compare my ideal with yours, hoping thereby to understand. Understanding does not come through comparison. I have no ideal, no pattern. Beauty is not divorced from action. True action is the very harmony of your whole being. What does that mean to you? It means nothing but empty words, because your actions are disharmonious, because you think one thing and act another.
所以你首先关注的是将头脑和内心从占有欲中解放出来，而只有当占有欲对你来说变成了毒药，只有当你深切体会到那毒药导致的巨大痛苦时，你才能做到这一点。而你却试图从那痛苦中逃脱。你想让我告诉你我关于爱和美的理想是什么，这样你就可以把它变成另一个模式、另一个标准，或者把我的理想与你的理想相比较，期望能从中得到领悟。领悟并不能由比较得来。我没有理想，没有模式。美与行动不是分离的。真正的行动就是你整个生命本身的和谐。这句话对你来说意味着什么？除了空洞的词语以外，毫无意义，因为你的行动是不和谐的，因为你想的是一回事，做的却是另外一回事。
You can find enduring freedom, truth, beauty, love, which are one and the same, only when you no longer seek them. Please try to understand what I am saying. My meaning is subtle only in the sense that it can be carried out infinitely. I say that your very search is destroying your love, destroying your sense of beauty, of truth, because your search is but an escape, a flight from conflict. And beauty, love, truth, that Godhead of understanding, is not found by running away from conflict; it lies in the very conflict itself.
你可以发现永恒的自由、真理、美和爱，这些都是一体的，是同一种东西，只有当你不再追寻它们的时候，你才能发现它们。请试着理解我说的话。我的意思只有在它被无限领悟的时候才是微妙的。我说正是你们的追寻破坏了你们的爱，破坏了你们对美、对真理的感受能力，因为你们的追寻不过是对冲突的一种逃避和逃离。而美、爱、真理以及对神性的领悟，无法从对冲突的逃避中发现，它就存在于冲突本身之中。
The Art of Listening, Adyar 4th Public Talk, 1st January, 1934
《倾听内心的声音》之“什么是真正的满足”
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