网友:我在欧洲度过的20年比在美国度过的30年要好得多。在欧洲这里,我觉得好像我们从我们交的税中得到了什么,而在美国,你交了税却什么也得不到.......
Michael Ler
I've enjoyed the past 20 years in Europe much more than my 30 years in the US. Here I feel as if we get something for the taxes we pay whereas in the US you pay taxes and get about nothing.
我在欧洲度过的20年比在美国度过的30年要好得多。在欧洲这里,我觉得好像我们从我们交的税中得到了什么,而在美国,你交了税却什么也得不到。
Politicians in the US are allowed to take bribes (“donations”) from private interest groups such as the $trillion a year “defense" contractors and foreign interest groups such as AIPAC. Any wonder that $trillions upon $$trillions have been wasted bombing foreign countries in numerous israeli proxy wars that benefit only the israelis and defense contractors? Yet half of Americans will curl up in the fetal position at the mere mention of affordable higher education and medicine.
美国政客可以从私人利益集团(如获得每年价值万亿美元合同的国防承包商和美国以色列公共事务委员会(AIPAC)等外国利益集团那里收受贿赂(称之为“捐赠”)。难怪在无数次只有以色列人和国防承包商受益的以色列代理人战争中,数万亿美元被浪费在轰炸外国上?然而,只要一提到可负担得起的高等教育和医疗,一半的美国人就会蜷缩成一团。
The US president spent $150 million in taxpayer funds playing golf at his own golf courses and gets away with it. In Europe politicians have resigned in disgrace for buying a $2 candy bar with taxpayer funds
这位美国总统花了1.5亿美元纳税人基金在他自己的高尔夫球场打高尔夫球,却没有受到惩罚。在欧洲,政客们因为用纳税人的钱买了一块2美元的巧克力而不光彩地辞职了
The few times I needed to use US hospitals were all pretty bad experiences. Everyone seemed to have an attitude. One example of many would be a nurse that cursed me out because my IV got knocked out while I was sleeping. In Europe I have always been impressed with the professionalism and care provided. Had my first surgery a few months ago. Went to the ER and was given all the scans and x-rays needed without wait. Got 8 days in post op and was actually given the choice as to staying longer. Unlike the US there is no worry as to going bankrupt and losing my house and other possessions.
我去美国医院就医的几次都是非常糟糕的经历。每个人似乎都有自己的傲慢。其中一个例子就是一个护士诅咒我,因为我的静脉注射针头在我睡觉的时候被打掉了。在欧洲,我一直对他们医护人员的专业精神和服务印象深刻。几个月前我做了第一次手术。去了急诊室,进行了扫描和 x 光检查,没有等待。术后8天,实际上可以选择呆更长的时间。与美国不同,我不用担心破产和失去我的房子和其他财产。
General health…In the US 70% of people are overweight or obese. Fast food. Portions at restaurants that easily cover an entire day's worth of calories. And having to take the car everywhere even if it's just a few blocks away. Here I see 80 year olds walking half a mile to the grocery store and carrying all their groceries the half a mile back.
健康情况... 在美国70% 的人超重或肥胖。快餐店食物里的卡路里可以轻松满足一个人一整天的需求,而且即使只有几个街区的距离,你也不得不开车过去。在欧洲,我经常看到80岁的老人步行半英里去杂货店,把他们所有的食品杂货搬回半英里以外。
Marianne Kooiman
That depends on a lot of things, but for most people it isn’t.
这取决于很多因素,但对大多数人来说并非如此。
Certainly for the low and middle incomes life is better in Europe. Only for the high incomes life is better in the USA.
当然,中低收入者在欧洲会生活的更好。在美国,只有高收入的生活才更好。
Life in Europe isn’t great when your goal is to become rich. Certainly it’s possible to build up a good life, but keep in mind European countries tax the hell out of the high incomes. That’s why rich people in Europe are not as rich as rich people in the USA. They can still be rich, but everything is relative.
当你的目标是致富时,欧洲的生活并不美好。当然,过上好日子也是有可能的,但请记住,欧洲国家对高收入人群征收重税。这就是为什么欧洲的富人没有美国的富人那么富有。他们仍然可以富有,但一切都是相对的。
But when you just want to get by, live a normal average life, you’re way better off in Europe. The lower and middle class incomes are higher in Europe than they are in the USA. Job security is better in Europe, as well as financial support for those who aren’t able to work.
但是如果你只是想过正常的生活,你在欧洲会过得更好。欧洲的低收入和中产阶级的收入比美国高。欧洲的工作保障更好,对于那些没有工作能力的人也有财政支持。
One important factor is healthcare insurance, which is much cheaper in Europe than it is in the USA with usually better coverage. Each European country does this in it’s own way, either tax-funded government-based insurance or regulated market insurance. For Americans healthcare insurance takes up a good part of their income, in Europe that part is much smaller. And there is nothing wrong with the quality of healthcare in Europe.
一个重要的因素是医疗保险,在欧洲,医疗保险比在美国便宜得多,而且通常覆盖面更广。每个欧洲国家都以自己的方式做到这一点,要么是税收资助的政府基础保险,要么是受监管的市场保险。对美国人来说,医疗保险占据了他们收入的很大一部分,而在欧洲,这一部分要少得多。欧洲的医疗保健质量也很高。
So what’s your goal in life? Will you take your chances on becoming rich, with the possibility that you fail and end up in poverty? Then by all means stay in America. Or do you want a stable life without having to worry about the future. Not rich, but not poor either. Then Europe is the place for you.
那么你的人生目标是什么呢?你是否愿意冒着失败并最终陷入贫困的可能性而变得富有?那就一定要留在美国。或者你想要一个稳定的生活而不用担心未来,不富裕,但也不贫穷,那么欧洲就是你的归宿。
Severine Riise
Depends on a number of factors, including (but not limited to):
取决于多个因素,包括(但不限于) :
Where in either of those you live.
你住在哪里
Your income.
你的收入
Any inheritance or other secondary items of worth.
任何可以继承或其他次要的价值项目
Your social network.
你的社交网络
Your mental health.
你的心理健康
Your physical health.
你的身体健康
How much you like your job.
你有多喜欢你的工作
What hobbies you have, and how likely it is you’d be able to participate in these activities where you live, relative to elsewhere.
你的爱好是什么,相对于其他地方,你能够参加这些活动的可能性有多大
Your status as a majority/minority where you live.
你所在的群体是少数还是多数群体
Your skills, and their relevance where you are (relative to where you aren’t).
你的技能,以及技能对你现在成就的帮助情况
The US can be a nice place to live, given you have the social network, health, and income to manage it. Anywhere can be hell if your health goes down the drain, though a bit less hellish if you have access to the help you need (access both talking in terms of general availability of treatment, and how realistic it would be for you to afford it).
如果你有足够的社交网络、足够健康和收入来维持生活,那么美国可以成为一个不错的居住地。如果你的健康状况每况愈下,那么任何地方都是地狱,不过如果你能得到你所需要的帮助,那就没那么可怕了(不仅仅是谈论治疗的普遍可行性,还有你能否负担治疗费用)。
Because Europe is somewhat more diverse than the US states (in economy, linguistic and educational requirements, etc.) where in Europe you’re talking about also has a bit to say. I prefer Europe, because this is where I’m from, where most of my acquaintances are.
因为在经济、语言和教育要求等方面,欧洲比美国更加多样化,而在欧洲,你所说的也有一定的意义。我更喜欢欧洲,因为这里是我的家乡,我的大多数熟人都在那里。
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Doesn’t mean you’d love it the same.
但这并不意味着你会同样喜欢这个地方。
Mike Bolton
This will be tough to get answers for unless someone who has actually lived in both answers.
这将很难做出判断,除非有人同时在这两个地方生活过。
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Having only lived in America. My experience is limited. I have traveled though, and lived throughout the USA.
我只在美国生活过。我的经历也很有限。我去过很多地方,在美国各地生活过。
America is a beautiful country, filled with ugly horrible people.
美国是一个美丽的国家,充满了丑陋可怕的人。
Ive been in war zones, and seen the worst of humanity. But nothing is more soul crushing than the complete disregard and openly hostile attitude Ive encountered in America.
我去过战争地区,见识过人类最可怕的一面。但是没有什么比我在美国遭遇到的完全漠视和公开的敌对态度更令人心碎的了。
Also… American is a lie.
还有... 美国充满谎言。
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We are not free, not even sort of. We must beg permission from the govt to even do the most basic of human activities.
我们不是自由的,甚至不是那种自由。即使是最基本的人类活动,我们也必须得到政府的许可。
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Its not the land of opportunity, more like the land of intentionally fucking over others for profit.
这不是一片充满机会的土地,更像是一片为了利益而故意欺负他人的土地。
It wasnt always like this. Its really emerged since baby boomers took over 40 years ago and lost their minds.
它并不总是这样,它之所以变成今天这样,是因为婴儿潮一代在40年前接管了这个世界,并失去了他们的理智。
On the flip side. I found Europe to be very interesting, the people in general were very warm and welcoming… but of course I was a tourist so…
另一方面。我发现欧洲非常有趣,那里的人们通常都非常热情好客... ... 当然我是一个游客,所以... ..。
As far as landscapes… I found both very similar, just different architecture styles really.
至于风景... 我发现两者非常相似,只是建筑风格不同而已。
I do understand that many European countries have high standards of living, but those also, are subsidized largely by govt in countries with less population than 1 single US CITY, so the scale and portability of these systems just never will work in a country of almost 400 million people. Its the economy of scale.
我知道很多欧洲国家的生活水平都很高,因为政府可以发放补贴,这些国家的人口很少,比1个美国城市的人口还要少。所以这些系统的规模和便携性在一个拥有近4亿人口的国家(美国)永远不会起作用。这就是规模经济。
Mark McKee
It was attributed to Douglas Fairbanks in a conversations with Charlie Chaplin:
这是范朋克在与卓别林的一次谈话中提到的:
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“No, Charlie, Americans are basically good on the outside; what’s on the inside comes out when they’re afraid.”
“不,查理,美国人看似很不错,内心真实想法在他们害怕的时候就会显露出来。”
Ricky Smith
I say a big no!!! Life is much better. The health care is affordable. You're not worked to death like in the U.S.. There are no worries of being gunned down. The food isn't poisoned with tons of herbicides or pesticides. GMO are banned. A hospital stay won't make you bank rupt. You eat fresh foods in restaurants no matter where you go. Eating in Italian, Greek, Turkish, Spanish and Portuguese. No microwaves used in heated your cheap foods like in the states. Wal Mart hasn't taken over destroying small businesses. Kids get a better education and I can go on and on and on. I met a lot of real genuen friends. Here people are a bit different. I have met too many plastic people here. I never had this experience in Europe. You made plans to be someplace you stick to it. Being forgotten with no excuse. You see them later they don't apologise for their absence, not phoning or text. I've had that happen too many times. Europeans has more substance. So I've decided not to make friends anymore. I'm glad I kept my friends in Europe. May not be everywhere that they act like that. But in the south its the norm.
肯定不是!在欧洲生活比在美国好多了。欧洲医疗保健是负担得起的。你不像在美国那样工作到死。不用担心被枪杀。这里的食物没有被成吨的除草剂或杀虫剂毒害。转基因生物被禁止。住院不会让你破产。无论你去哪里,你都会在餐馆里吃到新鲜的食物。用意大利语、希腊语、土耳其语、西班牙语和葡萄牙语进餐。不要像美国那样用微波炉加热便宜的食物。沃尔玛并没有接手摧毁小企业。孩子们得到了更好的教育,我可以一直这样说下去。我遇到了很多真正的朋友。美国的人们则有点不同。我在美国遇到了太多的塑料友谊。我在欧洲从未有过这样的经历。你计划好要去一个你坚持的地方,但会无缘无故被遗忘。你后来遇见他们,他们也不会为自己的缺席道歉,也不会给你打电话或发短信解释。我在美国经历过太多次像这样的事情了。所以我决定在美国不再交朋友了。我很高兴我还有欧洲的朋友,也许并不是美国所有地方都是这样。但在美国南方,这种情况很常见。
Sonny Low
In short, the US is for people younger than 30 to work because after you gain 5 or more of experience, you're forced out of the job market.
简而言之,美国适合30岁以下的人去工作,因为当你获得了5年或更多的经验之后,你就会被迫离开就业市场。
In Europe, you pay more taxes, but at least you see it and get to use it. It's like a savings account where you really get to see the interest you made and that you can withdraw that extra income to spend it on anything.
在欧洲,你缴纳更多的税,但至少你能看到并使用它。这就像一个储蓄账户,在那里你可以看到你获得的利息,并且你可以提取额外的收入用于任何事情。
In the US, you're 99% guaranteed to become homeless once you get too old to work. SSI may or may not be enough to cover rent and if you have savings, even $500,000 ill be gone with your medical expenses.
在美国,99% 的人一旦年龄大到无法工作,就会无家可归。美国的养老基金可能不足以支付房租,如果你有存款,甚至500,000美元也会随着医疗费用一起消失。
Also, Europe has less shootings and you have a higher chance of making real friends in Europe.
而且,欧洲的枪击事件更少,你在欧洲交到真正朋友的机会更大。
In the US, maybe social media expanded it, but there are too many fake people who talk so fake, they'll never tell you how they really feel about anything.
在美国,也许是社交媒体放大了它,但是有太多虚伪的人说的太假了,他们永远不会告诉你他们对任何事情的真实感受。
Al Huck
If you like cozy environment U.S. is as wide and empty as Mars. Many news take months to spread unlike EU where it make full circle in few minutes. Why? People in U.S. don’t care much about thing outside their 5-mile radius. We only care about weather, fun or imminent danger to our safety, job or business, love, family, land, crop, local stores, shopping or outdoor activities etc. Personal privacy is main part of culture, unlike EU, where everyone like to know each other and freely chat with strangers. So what you like tells your choice of land.
如果你喜欢舒适的环境,美国就像火星一样广阔而空旷。许多消息需要几个月的时间才能传播开来,不像欧盟那样几分钟消息就传遍了。为什么?在美国,人们对5英里半径以外的事物不太在乎。我们只关心天气、对我们的安全、工作或生意、爱情、家庭、土地、庄稼、当地商店、购物或户外活动等相关的事情。个人隐私是文化的主要组成部分,不像欧盟,在那里每个人都喜欢互相认识,自由地与陌生人聊天。因此,你的喜好决定你喜欢住在哪里。
Roger Hayes
Well,my long emigrated to USA sister and her family evidently think so.
嗯,我长期移民到美国的姐姐和她的家人显然是这么认为的。
I have two branches of our family who emigrated. The first 150 years ago and the second 65 years ago.
我们家有两个分支移民了,第一个是150年前,第二个是65年前。
They not showing any signs or interest in coming back so guess things must be better in USA than Europe.
他们没有表现出任何回来的迹象或兴趣,所以我猜美国的情况一定比欧洲好。
Peace and All Good
和平,一切美好
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Layla Khan
Life in the USA has become hard especially under Trump. People need to hold 2/3 jobs to survive. Universities have highest tuition rates in world and finally we have our disastrous healthcare system where we are left paying thousands. In that respect life in Europe is easier, plus people in Europe not motivated by greed and have a certain Joie de vivre.
美国的生活变得艰难,特别是在特朗普的领导下。人们需要做2/3的工作才能生存。大学的学费是世界上最高的,最后我们还有糟糕的医疗保健系统,我们还要支付数千美元。在这方面,欧洲人的生活要容易得多,而且欧洲人并不贪婪,他们有一定的生活乐趣。
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Hajo Mueller
Is living in the USA better than in Europe?
在美国生活比在欧洲好吗?
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For most Americans the US is better. For most Europeans it is Europe. Depends what you used to and what you expect.
对大多数美国人来说,美国更好。对于大多数欧洲人来说,欧洲才是最重要的。这取决于你过去习惯了什么和你期望什么。
Amer Khwaja
There are pros and cons to each. It really depends on the individual.
这两个地方都有利有弊,这取决于个人。